Life with a new baby
こんにちは。宮崎です。 こんにちは。鳥山です。
konnichiwa. miyazaki desu. konnichiwa. toriyama desu.
Hello. This is Miyazaki. Hello. This is Toriyama.
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こんにちは。宮崎です。 こんにちは。鳥山です。
konnichiwa. miyazaki desu. konnichiwa. toriyama desu.
Hello. This is Miyazaki. Hello. This is Toriyama.
今日は赤ちゃんのいる朝のルーティンを話すよ。
kyou wa akachan no iru asa no ruutin o hanasu yo.
Today I'll talk about my morning routine with a baby.
鳥山さんには子供いる?
toriyamasan ni wa kodomo iru?
Oh, baby? Does Toriyama-san have children? Yes,
僕子供います。 今何歳ですか?
boku kodomo imasu. ima nansai desu ka?
I do. How old are you now?
11歳。
11 sai.
11 years old. oh. You're
おお。もう赤ちゃんじゃないね。
oo. mou akachan ja nai ne.
not a baby anymore. I have
歳と10歳2人います。
toshi to 10 sai 2 nin imasu.
two children, ages 11 and 10.
でもとても赤ちゃんです。
de mo totemo akachan desu.
But it's still very much a baby. [Laughs]
もう中身はとっても赤ちゃんです。 ああ。
mou nakami wa tottemo akachan desu. aa.
Inside, I'm still very much a baby. ah.
はい。 僕はまだ0歳の赤ちゃんがいます。
hai. boku wa mada 0 sai no akachan ga imasu.
yes. I have a baby who is still under one year old.
あ、こんぐらい。 うん。
a, kon gurai. un.
Oh, about this much. Yeah. About this much
こんぐらい。 こんぐらい。
kon gurai. kon gurai.
. About this much . About this much
こんぐらい。 僕はね、こんぐらい。
kon gurai. boku wa ne, kon gurai.
. For me , it's about this much.
で、今赤ちゃんがいるパパ
de, ima akachan ga iru papa
[Laughs] So , now that I'm a dad with a baby
なので、その生活の一部をどんなもんなのかっていうのをみんなと話していきたいと思います。
na no de, sono seikatsu no ichibu o donna mon na no ka tte iu no o minna to hanashite ikitai to omoimasu.
, I'd like to talk to everyone about what it's like to be a dad. That's
いいですね。 ではやっていくぞ。
ii desu ne. de wa yatte iku zo.
great. Okay, let's get started .
鳥山さんの子供が赤ちゃんだった頃、朝時頃に起きたり、夜何時に寝たりっていうのは決まってた?
toriyamasan no kodomo ga akachan datta koro, asa toki koro ni oki tari, yoru nandoki ni ne tari tte iu no wa kimatteta?
When Toriyama's child was a baby, was there a set time for waking up in the morning and going to bed at night? This was when they were
0歳の時だよね?
0 sai no toki da yo ne?
0 years old, right?
うん。もう生まれ立ての赤ちゃん。 うん。
un. mou umaretate no akachan. un.
Yeah. A newborn baby. Yeah.
0歳の時は、子供が起きたら起きる
0 sai no toki wa, kodomo ga okitara okiru
When the baby is 0 years old, you get up when the child wakes up
うん。うん。 って感じじゃない?時間は決まってない。
un. un. tte kanji ja nai? jikan wa kimattenai.
. Yeah. Is n't that the feeling? The time is not set.
そう。朝と夜がないよね? ない。ない
sou. asa to yoru ga nai yo ne? nai. nai
yes. There's no morning or evening, right? do not have. No.
ね。 うん。ミルクを飲んで
ne. un. miruku o nonde
Yeah. Drink milk and go to sleep. Yes. I'll wake up in about
寝てうん。
nete un.
and sleeps, yeah.
3時間ぐらい経ったら起きる。 うん。
3 jikan gurai tattara okiru. un.
3 hours. Yeah.
この繰り返し。 そうですね。
kono kurikaeshi. sou desu ne.
This repeats. I agree.
うん。 朝仕事行く前にミルクあげてた気がする。
un. asa shigoto iku mae ni miruku ageteta ki ga suru.
Yeah. I think I used to give him milk in the morning before going to work. oh.
おお。 うん。
oo. un.
Yeah. That's all in the past now
もう昔の話だからね。 そう。
mou mukashi no hanashi da kara ne. sou.
. yes. Do you
覚えてる? 僕はね、10年ぐらい前なので。
oboeteru? boku wa ne, 10 nen gurai mae na no de.
remember? For me , it was about 10 years ago.
うん。うん。 あまり覚えてないけど遊んだりもしなかったしまっすぐ家に帰ってましたね。
un. un. amari oboetenai kedo ason dari mo shinakatta shi massugu ie ni kaettemashita ne.
Yeah. Yeah. I do n't remember much, but I didn't play around or anything; I just went straight home.
あ、鳥山さんが飲み会えに行くとかはしてないくて家にまっすぐ帰ってたの?
a, toriyamasan ga nomi ae ni iku to ka wa shite na ikute ie ni massugu kaetteta no?
Oh, so Toriyama didn't go out drinking or anything, and just went straight home? I went
まっすぐ帰ってた。 真面目じゃん。
massugu kaetteta. majime jan.
straight home. That's serious.
多分ね。 俺と飲み行ってなかった?
tabun ne. ore to nomi ittenakatta?
Probably. Didn't we go out drinking together sometimes?
ま、行ってた時もある
ma, itteta toki mo aru
Well, we did sometimes,
けどやっぱり子供が優先ですから。
kedo yappari kodomo ga yuusen desu kara.
but my kids always come first.
うん。第1はね。
un. dai 1 wa ne.
Yeah. Firstly,
うん。大変だったよ。 大変だった。
un. taihen datta yo. taihen datta.
Yeah. It was tough. It was tough. It was
大変だったよ。 ああ、そうだよね。
taihen datta yo. aa, sou da yo ne.
tough. Oh, that's right. It's
大変でしょ? すごい大変なんだけど、
taihen desho? sugoi taihen na n da kedo,
tough, isn't it? It's really tough, but in
うちの場合はね、粉ミルクをあげてないの。
uchi no baai wa ne, kona miruku o agetenai no.
our case, we don't give our baby formula.
ほう、ほう、ほう。 ここおっぱい。
hou, hou, hou. koko oppai.
Oh, oh, oh. Here are boobs.
うん。 「母乳」って言うんだけど。
un. " bonyuu " tte iu n da kedo.
Yeah. It's called "breast milk."
はいはいはいはい。 母乳をあげてんのね。
hai hai hai hai. bonyuu o ageten no ne.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. You're breastfeeding, aren't you? That's why I hardly ever give them
だから僕がミルクをあげるってことがほぼないのよ。
da kara boku ga miruku o ageru tte koto ga hobo nai no yo.
milk.
はい。はい。はい。ま、たまにあるけど。だからすごく面倒は楽。
hai. hai. hai. ma, tamani aru kedo. da kara sugoku mendou wa raku.
yes. yes. yes. Well, it happens sometimes . So it's really easy to avoid trouble.
ああ。じゃあ奥さんがその分大変だと。
aa. jaa okusan ga sono bun taihen da to.
ah. So your wife has to go through a lot of hardship because of that. I agree
そうだね。特に夜中。 ああ、確かにね。
sou da ne. tokuni yonaka. aa, tashika ni ne.
. Especially in the middle of the night. Ah , you're right. You
夜中って起きるじゃん? ああ。
yonaka tte okiru jan? aa.
wake up in the middle of the night, right? ah.
ああ。 で、夜で起きたら奥さんがおっぱいあげて
aa. de, yoru de okitara okusan ga oppai agete
ah. So, when I woke up at night, my wife was breastfeeding me
うん。 で、僕は爆睡
un. de, boku wa bakusui
. And then I slept soundly. Ah, I see. He's snoring loudly and
ああ、なるほどっすね。 いびきを書いて爆睡してます。
aa, naruhodossu ne. ibiki o kaite bakusui shitemasu.
sleeping soundly.
僕もね、夜中
boku mo ne, yonaka
I also cry in the middle of the night and sometimes
夜泣きしておっぱいたまに吸うんですけど。
yonaki shite oppai tamani suu n desu kedo.
nurse.
あ、鳥山さんが? あ、はい。
a, toriyamasan ga? a, hai.
Oh, Mr. Toriyama? Ah, yes.
ああ。 ああ、やっぱ美味しいですよね。とても
aa. aa, yappa oishii desu yo ne. totemo
ah. Ah, it's really delicious, isn't it? There's probably nothing more to
もう何も出ないでしょ。 出なくてもいいんです。ああ、吸ってることに意味がある。
mou nan mo denai desho. denakute mo ii n desu. aa, sutteru koto ni imi ga aru.
come out of this. You don't have to go. Ah, there's meaning in smoking it. It's more like
吸うというか、転がすというか、
suu to iu ka, korogasu to iu ka,
sucking it in, or rolling it around,
あのさ、うん。
ano sa, un.
you know, yeah.
赤ちゃんっておしゃぶりするじゃん。 おしゃぶりしますね。
akachan tte oshaburi suru jan. oshaburi shimasu ne.
Babies use pacifiers, right? I'll use a pacifier. You know those
おしゃぶりっていうのがあるじゃない? え、おしゃぶりの話ですか?
oshaburi tte iu no ga aru ja nai? e, oshaburi no hanashi desu ka?
pacifiers? Oh, you mean pacifiers?
そうで、聞いて。 おしゃぶりの感覚で
sou de, kiite. oshaburi no kankaku de
Yes, listen. Does that mean it's
吸ってるってこと?
sutteru tte koto?
sucking on it like a pacifier?
ああ、そうですね。 要はおしゃぶりはミルク出ないじゃん。
aa, sou desu ne. you wa oshaburi wa miruku denai jan.
Ah, yes. Basically, pacifiers don't produce milk, right?
うん。 ただ転がすだけじゃん。
un. tada korogasu dake jan.
Yeah. You just roll it, right?
うん。 そういうこと。
un. sou iu koto.
Yeah. That's right .
そう。 鳥山さんがやってんのは。
sou. toriyamasan ga yatten no wa.
yes. What Toriyama is doing.
うん。だって宮崎さんも赤ちゃんの時はおしゃぶりしてたでしょ?
un. da tte miyazakisan mo akachan no toki wa oshaburi shiteta desho?
Yeah. But Miyazaki-san probably used a pacifier when she was a baby, right?
多分。 うん。
tabun. un.
Yeah. It's unfair to say that you can't do it once you become an
それがさ、大人になったらダメっていうのはさ、ずるいですよ。
sore ga sa, otona ni nattara dame tte iu no wa sa, zurui desu yo.
adult. That's not fair
ずるいよ。それ大人になってもそれは欲しいですよ。
zurui yo. sore otona ni natte mo sore wa hoshii desu yo.
. I still want that even when I'm an adult.
うん。 うん。
un. un.
Yeah. Yeah. I see.
なるほどね。 みんな、みんなそう。
naruhodo ne. minna, minna sou.
Everyone, everyone is like that.
あ、そう。 うん。ただ恥ずかしいだけ。
a, sou. un. tada hazukashii dake.
Oh, really? Yeah. It's just embarrassing.
ま、恥ずかしいでしょ? だって大人は吸わないから。
ma, hazukashii desho? da tte otona wa suwanai kara.
Well, it's embarrassing, isn't it? Because adults don't smoke.
ああ、そういうものじゃん?
aa, sou iu mono jan?
Oh, that's just how it is, isn't it ? is that so
そうですか。そうなの? そうでしょ。だって僕がさ、夜中起きて
sou desu ka. sou na no? sou desho. da tte boku ga sa, yonaka okite
. Really? I thought so. Because I was up in the middle of the night and thought, "Oh, I'll just do it
あ、ちょっとやって。 あ、ちょ、ちょっと僕料理してるから僕あれね、ママ。
a, chotto yatte. a, cho, chotto boku ryouri shiteru kara boku are ne, mama.
." Oh, wait, I'm cooking for a bit, so I'll be right there, Mom. Then I'll be the
じゃあ僕は大人の夜泣きして。
jaa boku wa otona no yonaki shite.
adult who cries at night.
夜泣きのパパ。 うん。うん。夜泣きして。
yonaki no papa. un. un. yonaki shite.
Dad's baby cries at night. Yeah. Yeah. She cried at night.
うん。 うん。
un. un.
Yeah. Yeah.
ああ。
aa.
ah.
ママ。うん。 どうしたの?
mama. un. dou shita no?
Mom. Yeah. What's wrong,
ママ、転がしたい。
mama, korogashitai.
Mom? I want to roll it around.
それは気持ち悪い。
sore wa kimochi warui.
[Laughs] That's disgusting.
いや、だから気持ち悪いです。 それは気持ち悪いよ。
iya, da kara kimochi warui desu. sore wa kimochi warui yo.
No, that's why it's disgusting. That's disgusting. That's why it's no
だからダメなんだよ。 大人はやっちゃいけないの。
da kara dame na n da yo. otona wa yatcha ikenai no.
good. Adults shouldn't do that. You shouldn't do that, right
それはやっちゃいけないよでしょ?
sore wa yatcha ikenai yo desho?
?
うん。 それを今やってるんだよ、あなたは。
un. sore o ima yatteru n da yo, anata wa.
Yeah. That's what you're doing right now.
じゃな、宮崎さんはさ、今ちょっとかっこつけたね
ja na, miyazakisan wa sa, ima chotto kakko tsuketa ne
Well, Miyazaki-san, you were trying to act cool just now, weren't you?
え。そう? うん。
e. sou? un.
yes? Yeah.
じゃあやってくれる? あ、いいよ。俺の見本見せるよ。
jaa yatte kureru? a, ii yo. ore no mihon miseru yo.
So, will you do it? Oh, sure. Let me show you how it's done.
ああ、泣いてる。ああ、
aa, naiteru. aa,
Oh, she's crying. Oh,
何の時間?どうしたの?ほら、恥ずかしいじゃん。恥ずかしがっちゃったじゃん。だからダメなんだって。大人はそういうこと言っちゃ。
nan no jikan? dou shita no? hora, hazukashii jan. hazukashigatchatta jan. da kara dame na n da tte. otona wa sou iu koto itcha.
what time is it? What's wrong? Come on, it's embarrassing. I got embarrassed. That's why it's no good. Adults shouldn't say things like that. [Laughs]
分かった。 あの、本気でさ、真面目におっぱいとか言いないね。そうだよ。あれは夜だけだよ。
wakatta. ano, honki de sa, majime ni oppai to ka iinai ne. sou da yo. are wa yoru dake da yo.
Got it. I mean, seriously, don't say things like "boobs." That's right. That only happens at night.
ああ、大人の遊びってことで、また別のジャンルだから。今日は赤ちゃんの話。
aa, otona no asobi tte koto de, mata betsu no janru da kara. kyou wa akachan no hanashi.
Ah, well, it's a different genre altogether, since it's adult entertainment. Today's topic is babies.
ああ、そうだよね。赤ちゃんは栄養を取ってんだね。
aa, sou da yo ne. akachan wa eiyou o totte n da ne.
Oh, that's right. The baby is getting enough nutrients.
そう。あれはご飯だから。 うん。
sou. are wa gohan da kara. un.
yes. That's rice. Yeah. It's what we
うちらで言うラーメンなんだから。 うん。そうだよね。
uchira de iu raamen na n da kara. un. sou da yo ne.
call ramen. Yeah. That's right.
大人はただ吸いたいだけだもんね?
otona wa tada suitai dake da mon ne?
Adults just want to smoke, right?
うん。 うん。
un. un.
Yeah. Yeah.
そう。 それ勘違いしてた。
sou. sore kanchigai shiteta.
yes. I was mistaken about that.
それは違うよ。 まだ赤ちゃんには性欲ないから。
sore wa chigau yo. mada akachan ni wa seiyoku nai kara.
That's not right. Babies don't have sexual desires yet. That's right
そうですよ。 うん。
sou desu yo. un.
. Yeah.
ダメですよ、こういう話は。 そう。
dame desu yo, kou iu hanashi wa. sou.
That's not good. yes.
うん。 鳥山さんの子供が小さい頃ミルクだったのか母乳だったのか。
un. toriyamasan no kodomo ga chiisai koro miruku datta no ka bonyuu datta no ka.
Yeah. When Toriyama's children were little, were they given formula or breast milk?
僕が赤ちゃんの頃ですか? 「僕が」じゃない。あなたの子供が赤ちゃんの頃。
boku ga akachan no koro desu ka? " boku ga " ja nai. anata no kodomo ga akachan no koro.
When I was a baby? Not "me." When your child was a baby.
あ、ミルクです。 へえ。おっぱいはあげてないんだ?
a, miruku desu. hee. oppai wa agetenai n da?
Oh, it's milk. Oh really? So you have n't breastfed her?
そう。おっぱいあんまり出なくて。
sou. oppai anmari denakute.
yes. I don't produce much milk.
うん。うん。そういう人いるよね。 最初の
un. un. sou iu hito iru yo ne. saisho no
Yeah. Yeah. There are people like that, aren't there? For the first
1ヶ月ぐらいは母乳と、要はミルク半分半分。
1 kagetsu gurai wa bonyuu to, you wa miruku hanbun hanbun.
month or so, it was basically half breast milk and half formula.
うん。 でも
un. de mo
Yeah. But after about
1ヶ月経ったぐらいからずっとミルクかな。 ああ、そうなんだ?
1 kagetsu tatta gurai kara zutto miruku ka na. aa, sou na n da?
a month, it's been mostly milk. Oh, really?
うん。 結構大変だよね。
un. kekkou taihen da yo ne.
Yeah. That's quite tough, isn't it?
どっちが? ミルク?
dotchi ga? miruku?
Which one? Milk?
あ、そうかな?ミルクは僕楽だったイメージ。
a, sou ka na? miruku wa boku raku datta imeeji.
Oh, really? I remember milk being easy to drink. vice versa
逆に? うん。
gyaku ni? un.
? Yeah. You know, that
ほら、今あの水とお湯が出るさ、あれでしょ?マシン。
hora, ima ano mizu to oyu ga deru sa, are desho? mashin.
machine that dispenses hot and cold water right now?
ああ、あるね。 あれで
aa, aru ne. are de
Ah, yes, there is. It's a
ボタンでね。 そう。あれでお湯を哺乳瓶に入れて
botan de ne. sou. are de oyu o honyuu bin ni irete
button, you know. yes. Use that to put hot water in the baby bottle
うん。 あげるだけみたいな。
un. ageru dake mitai na.
. It's like just giving it away.
あ、うちね沸かしてるの。 ああ、沸かしてんの?いちいち
a, uchi ne wakashiteru no. aa, wakashiten no? ichiichi
Oh, we're boiling water at home. Oh, are you boiling it? They
いちいち沸かすんだよね。沸騰させて入れて
ichiichi wakasu n da yo ne. futtou sasete irete
boil it every single time, don't they? Bring it to a boil,
水半分入れてこうね、
mizu hanbun irete kou ne,
add half the water , and then
調整するでしょ、温度を。 あ、そう、そう、そう。
chousei suru desho, ondo o. a, sou, sou, sou.
adjust the temperature. Oh, right, right, right. Then I give it to them, and they just
で、それからあげるんだけど、ただすごい飲むの。
de, sore kara ageru n da kedo, tada sugoi nomu no.
drink a lot.
うん。すごい飲む。 ミルクってすごい飲むじゃん?勢いよく。
un. sugoi nomu. miruku tte sugoi nomu jan? ikioi yoku.
Yeah. I drink a lot. You drink a lot of milk, right? With force.
うん。 あの、あれよね。めっちゃお腹減ってる時さ。
un. ano, are yo ne. metcha onaka hetteru toki sa.
Yeah. You know, that thing. When I'm really hungry.
そうそうそうそう。
sousou sousou.
Yes, yes, yes, that's right. That's
すごいよね。そんな腹減ってたの?ってぐらい飲むから。
sugoi yo ne. sonna hara hetteta no? tte gurai nomu kara.
amazing, isn't it? Were you that hungry? Because I drink that much.
はい。 ただ奥さんは母乳あげたいから。
hai. tada okusan wa bonyuu agetai kara.
yes. But my wife wants to breastfeed.
うん。 だからすごい嫉妬してるみたいよ。
un. da kara sugoi shitto shiteru mitai yo.
Yeah. That's why she seems incredibly jealous.
嫉妬? 要は母乳じゃなくてミルクの方が飲みがいいから。
shitto? you wa bonyuu ja nakute miruku no hou ga nomi ga ii kara.
envy? Basically, the baby drinks formula better than breast milk.
ああ、粉ミルクね。 そう。
aa, kona miruku ne. sou.
Oh, formula milk. yes. I see. Because that one
なるほど。 そっちの方がすごい飲むから
naruhodo. sotchi no hou ga sugoi nomu kara
drinks a lot more
うん。 嫉妬があるみたい。
un. shitto ga aru mitai.
. It seems like there's some jealousy involved. Oh really? That's one way of doing it too
へえ。 そういうのもあるよ。
hee. sou iu no mo aru yo.
.
なんでさ、ミルクをあげる?あ、おっぱいあげるの?
nan de sa, miruku o ageru? a, oppai ageru no?
Why do you give them milk? Oh, you breast milk? I heard
おっぱいの方が栄養があるんだって。 うん。うん。
oppai no hou ga eiyou ga aru n da tte. un. un.
breast milk is more nutritious. Yeah. Yeah. Better
粉ミルクよりも。 へえ。
kona miruku yori mo. hee.
than formula milk. Oh really?
ホルモンとかあれってもう血液だから。 あ、それは言ってた。うん。
horumon to ka are tte mou ketsueki da kara. a, sore wa itteta. un.
Hormones and stuff like that are basically blood. Oh, I did mention that. Yeah.
血液だから自分の血を与えてる感じ
ketsueki da kara jibun no chi o ataeteru kanji
Since it's blood, it feels like you're giving your own blood, so it's supposed to be
だからすごく栄養があるらしい。
da kara sugoku eiyou ga arurashii.
very nutritious. They
なんかあれも言うよね。おっぱいと違う人のおっぱいを混ぜたらダメって。
nan ka are mo yuu yo ne. oppai to chigau hito no oppai o mazetara dame tte.
say that too, don't they? You can't mix breasts from one person with breasts from another.
あ、そう。あれ血液だから混ざんないの。 そう。血液ってこともね、俺最近知りました。
a, sou. are ketsueki da kara mazannai no. sou. ketsueki tte koto mo ne, ore saikin shirimashita.
Oh, really? That's blood, so it won't mix. yes. I only recently learned that it's blood.
おっぱいを。 うん。
oppai o. un.
Boobs. Yeah.
うん。 だからその方が風邪が引きにくい。
un. da kara sono hou ga kaze ga hikinikui.
Yeah. That way you're less likely to catch a cold.
うーん。なるほど。 体が強くなるから。
uun. naruhodo. karada ga tsuyoku naru kara.
Hmm. I see. Because it makes your body stronger.
でも今僕の赤ちゃんも
de mo ima boku no akachan mo
But now my baby hasn't caught a
1回も風邪引いてなくて何にもない。 なるほどね。
1 kai mo kaze hiitenakute nanni mo nai. naruhodo ne.
cold even once and is perfectly healthy. I see.
元気ななんかね
genki na nan ka ne
Energetic, you know, yeah
うん。1歳ぐらいになるとなんかすごい高熱とかを出すのよ。
un. 1 sai gurai ni naru to nan ka sugoi kounetsu to ka o dasu no yo.
. Around the age of one, babies often develop really high fevers. Apparently,
1回子供ってらしいね。
1 kai kodomo tterashii ne.
once you're a child, that's what it's like .
そう。僕びっくりしちゃった。 1回あって。
sou. boku bikkuri shichatta. 1 kai atte.
yes. I was really surprised. It happened once. You have a
高熱ね。 高熱。ま、熱だね。
kounetsu ne. kounetsu. ma, netsu da ne.
high fever. High fever. Well, it's a fever.
高い熱。
takai netsu.
High temperature. He was
もう僕の最初の上の子なんだけど、上の子はいきなり痙攣し出して
mou boku no saisho no ue no ko na n da kedo, ue no ko wa ikinari keiren shi dashite
my first child, and he suddenly started having seizures. Oh yeah, that happened
ああ、あったね。 そう。
aa, atta ne. sou.
. yes.
うん。 普通に寝ててリビングでね。したらいきなり痙攣。
un. futsuu ni netete ribingu de ne. shitara ikinari keiren.
Yeah. I was just sleeping normally in the living room. Then, suddenly, I had a seizure.
うん。うん。 痙攣ってもう震えることだね。
un. un. keiren tte mou furueru koto da ne.
Yeah. Yeah. A convulsion is basically just trembling.
そう。震えること。
sou. furueru koto.
yes. To tremble.
白目。 うん。
shirome. un.
White of the eye. Yeah. So much so that you ca
この黒い目が見えなくなるぐらい。 そう。ここは
kono kuroi me ga mienaku naru gurai. sou. koko wa
n't even see these black eyes. yes. This is
うん。 で、こうやって抱っこしてもうガッチガチなの。体が。
un. de, kou yatte dakko shite mou gatchigachi na no. karada ga.
it. And when I hold him like this, he's already rock-hard. My body. It's
大きいね。 うん。そん時何歳かな?わかんないけど
ookii ne. un. son toki nansai ka na? wakannai kedo
big. Yeah. I don't know how old I was then
1歳って言ってたよ。
1 sai tte itteta yo.
one year old. About
1歳ぐらいかな。もう体ガッチガチ固まって、
1 sai gurai ka na. mou karada gatchigachi katamatte,
one year old, I think. My body was completely stiff, I was
焦ってさ、汗だラダラダラダラ出して俺もね。
asette sa, ase da radaradaradara dashite ore mo ne.
panicking, and I was sweating profusely too.
うん。 で、救急車、
un. de, kyuukyuusha,
Yeah. So , I
救急車を呼んだの。 そういう時が来るかもしれません。
kyuukyuusha o yon da no. sou iu toki ga kuru ka mo shiremasen.
called an ambulance. That time may come.
あ、まあ何回かあるだろうね。 うん。あれ怖いよ。
a, maa nan kai ka aru darou ne. un. are kowai yo.
Ah, well, I suppose it'll happen a few times. Yeah. That's scary. There's no
風を引かない人なんていないじゃん。 うん。ない、ない、ない。
kaze o hikanai hito nante inai jan. un. nai, nai, nai.
one who never catches a cold, right? Yeah. No, no, no. Even
僕でも鳥山さんでも何十回、何百回も風邪引いてるし。
boku de mo toriyamasan de mo nanjuu kai, nanbyaku kai mo kaze hiiteru shi.
I, and Toriyama-san, have caught colds dozens, even hundreds of times.
うん。 ま、みんなそういうもんでしょうと思って。ま、僕は構えてますよ。
un. ma, minna sou iu mon deshou to omotte. ma, boku wa kamaetemasu yo.
Yeah. Well, I figured that's just how it is for everyone. Well, I'm prepared. That's right
そうですよ。 うん。ただなんか事故とかは怖いなと思う。
sou desu yo. un. tada nan ka jiko to ka wa kowai na to omou.
. Yeah. But I'm kind of scared of accidents and stuff.
うん。 奥さんは車の運転するから
un. okusan wa kuruma no unten suru kara
Yeah. My wife will drive, so please put the
子供乗っけてね。事故とかが怖い。そっちの方が怖いかな。
kodomo nokkete ne. jiko to ka ga kowai. sotchi no hou ga kowai ka na.
kids in the car. I'm afraid of accidents and things like that. That's probably scarier.
赤ちゃんってさ、この免疫を上げるためにおっぱいあげるじゃん?
akachan tte sa, kono men'eki o ageru tame ni oppai ageru jan?
Babies are breastfed to boost their immunity, right?
うん。 ばい菌とかを一緒に飲ましてんだよね。
un. baikin to ka o issho ni nomashite n da yo ne.
Yeah. They're basically giving them germs and stuff along with their drinks.
まあ、言ったらそう。 簡単に言うとね、
maa, ittara sou. kantan ni yuu to ne,
Well, you could say that. Simply put, it's to make it
強くするために。
tsuyoku suru tame ni.
stronger. They're
自分の血の中の菌まで全てを飲んでもらってる。
jibun no chi no naka no kin made subete o nonde moratteru.
drinking every last drop, even the bacteria in my own blood.
うん。 耐性か。
un. taisei ka.
Yeah. Resistance, huh? I
大人が飲むと興奮剤みたいの入ってんだと思うんだよね。あれって。
otona ga nomu to koufunzai mitai no haitte n da to omou n da yo ne. are tte.
think it contains something like a stimulant if adults drink it. What about that? That stuff has some kind of
それは興奮剤みたいなのが入ってるわ、あれは。
sore wa koufunzai mitai na no ga haitteru wa, are wa.
stimulant in it.
ああ、大人が飲むと興奮するものが入ってる?
aa, otona ga nomu to koufun suru mono ga haitteru?
Oh, does it contain something that excites adults when they drink it?
そう。飲まなくてもいいけどね。 だからか。
sou. nomanakute mo ii kedo ne. da kara ka.
yes. You don't have to drink it, though. Is that why? So what? I see
だからなんだよ。 そうか。
da kara nan da yo. sou ka.
. Is that an
媚薬なの?あれ。僕の子供が今
biyaku na no? are. boku no kodomo ga ima
aphrodisiac? My child is now about
3ヶ月ぐらいになりました。 お、生まれて3ヶ月目。
3 kagetsu gurai ni narimashita. o, umarete 3 kagetsume.
3 months old. Oh, the baby is three months old.
そう。 うん。
sou. un.
yes. Yeah.
3ヶ月となると何がレベルアップします?
3 kagetsu to naru to nan ga reberu appu shimasu?
What level will improve in three months?
3ヶ月か。
3 kagetsu ka.
Three months, huh?
3ヶ月ってどんなことすると思う?覚えてる?
3 kagetsu tte donna koto suru to omou? oboeteru?
What do you think we do in three months? Do you remember? I
ちょっと喋り出す。 おお、正解。
chotto shaberi dasu. oo, seikai.
start talking a little. Oh, that's correct.
あの、「えー」とか? そう。それがね最近すごいのよ。これ口から音が出るっていうのが分かったんだろうね。
ano, " ee " to ka? sou. sore ga ne saikin sugoi no yo. kore kuchi kara oto ga deru tte iu no ga wakatta n darou ne.
Um, like, "Uh..."? yes. It's been amazing lately. They must have realized that this makes a sound coming from their mouth. If you tap this part of its
このさ、口のこの辺をさ、ポンポンポンって触ると喋るの。
kono sa, kuchi no kono hen o sa, ponponpon tte sawaru to shaberu no.
mouth, it will start talking.
うん。 ああ。
un. aa.
Yeah. ah. If you
ポンポンポンってやると「ああ」って。
ponponpon tte yaru to " aa " tte.
tap it, it goes "Ahhh."
あ、そう
a, sou
[Laughs] Oh, that's what you
言うのよ。 可愛い。
iu no yo. kawaii.
say. cute. It
口あるやん!て。 そう。ここがスイッチになってんの。
kuchi aruyan! te. sou. koko ga suitchi ni natten no.
has a mouth! hand. yes. This is the switch.
はいはいはい。 それが可愛くてさ、あ、レベルアップしてんなって。
hai hai hai. sore ga kawaikute sa, a, reberu appu shiten na tte.
Yes, yes, yes. It was so cute, I thought, "Wow, they've leveled up."
ま、あれドラクエじゃん、あれって。
ma, are dorakue jan, are tte.
Well, that's Dragon Quest, isn't it? I feel like I've
レベルアップを感じてるんですよ。
reberu appu o kanjiteru n desu yo.
leveled up.
で、これがね、半年ぐらい
de, kore ga ne, hantoshi gurai
So,
になると
ni naru to
when they get to that point,
どうなります?逆に教えて欲しい。
dou narimasu? gyaku ni oshiete hoshii.
what happens after about six months? I'd like to know, in return.
ま、ちょっと何ヶ月でこうとは覚えてないけど。
ma, chotto nan kagetsu de kou to wa oboetenai kedo.
Well, I don't really remember how many months it took.
ああ、そうっか。 でも多分だけど次は
aa, sou っ ka. de mo tabun da kedo tsugi wa
Oh, I see. But I think they'll probably start
もうちょっと喋るようになるんですよ。
mou chotto shaberu you ni naru n desu yo.
talking a bit more next time. Right now
今はさ、「え」とかさ、「うー」とか
ima wa sa, " e " to ka sa, " uu " to ka
, the
一番言う言葉セリフ
ichiban iu kotoba serifu
most frequently used word and phrase
ランキング1位が「んぐー」
rankingu 1 i ga " n guu "
is "nguu" [laughs]
あ、んぐー
a, n guu
Ah, nguu,
うん。 あ、そう。
un. a, sou.
yeah. Oh, really? I'll
一番言う。
ichiban yuu.
say this first.
そう。最初が「ん」だよね。 うん。うん。
sou. saisho ga " n " da yo ne. un. un.
yes. It starts with "n," right? Yeah. Yeah. The
多分次のステップは
tabun tsugi no suteppu wa
next step is probably...
うん。 連続して言葉を言うんと思う。例えば
un. renzoku shite kotoba o yuun to omou. tatoeba
yeah. I think they'll say the words in a row. For example,
「だーだーだー」とか。
" daadaa daa " to ka.
"Da-da-da."
ああ、なんか長くなるんだ。そう文章が。
aa, nan ka nagaku naru n da. sou bunshou ga.
Oh, this is going to be long. Yes, the writing.
「ああだあだあ」とか。 おお。
" aa daadaa " to ka. oo.
"Ahhh ahhh ahhh," or something like that. oh. I'll just say one thing for now
今は一言だからね。 そうそう。
ima wa hitokoto da kara ne. sousou.
. oh yeah .
「ああー」とか。 で、そこで連続して言葉を言うようになったら次お父さんとかがパパとか言う。もうやってる。
" aaa " to ka. de, soko de renzoku shite kotoba o iu you ni nattara tsugi ochichisan to ka ga papa to ka yuu. mou yatteru.
"Ahhh," or something like that. Then , once they start saying words in succession, the next thing they'll say is "Dad" or "Papa." I'm already doing it. I'm doing it
やってる。え、もうやってる? もうやってる。毎日やってるけど「んぐー」しか言わない。
yatteru. e, mou yatteru? mou yatteru. mainichi yatteru kedo " n guu " shika iwanai.
. Wait, are you already doing it? Yes, I am. I do it every day, but all it says is "nguu." Are you a
パパってやってる?
papa tte yatteru?
dad?
ま、そんなゆっくりじゃないな。パパって音を聞かせてる。
ma, sonna yukkuri ja nai na. papa tte oto o kikaseteru.
Well, it's not that slow. I'm letting him hear the sound of "Daddy." Do you want me to
言わせたい? 言わせたい。
iwasetai? iwasetai.
say it? I want them to say it. And another
で、もう1つ最近のレベルアップは
de, mou 1 tsu saikin no reberu appu wa
recent improvement is that he can roll over in his
寝返り。 ああ、寝返りね。子供が仰向けから「くるん」っと
negaeri. aa, negaeri ne. kodomo ga aomuke kara " kuru n " tto
sleep. Ah, turning over in sleep. It's when a child suddenly changes position from lying on their back
姿勢を変えることだね。
shisei o kaeru koto da ne.
.
そう。 寝返りするとレベルアップ感あるじゃん?
sou. negaeri suru to reberu appu kan aru jan?
yes. When you roll over in your sleep, it feels like you've leveled up, right? So
で、これはね、最近思ったんだけど、おむつを変える時
de, kore wa ne, saikin omotta n da kedo, omutsu o kaeru toki
, this is something I've been thinking about lately, when you change a diaper, you
寝かすじゃん?
nekasu jan?
lay the baby down, right?
うん。 その時にすごい反るのよ。こう横にあって
un. sono toki ni sugoi soru no yo. kou yoko ni atte
Yeah. It arches really far at that moment. It's next to it like this, yes
はい。うん。 あ、もうこれ寝返りするじゃんって。もうこの時期今
hai. un. a, mou kore negaeri suru jan tte. mou kono jiki ima
. Yeah. Oh, look, he's going to roll over now. Around this time of year, changing
ちょっとおむついが大変になってくる。
chotto omutsu i ga taihen ni natte kuru.
diapers becomes a bit of a challenge.
そう。戻しながら。 分かるわかるわかる。そうなるね。
sou. modoshi nagara. wakaru wakaru wakaru. sou naru ne.
yes. While returning. I understand, I understand, I understand. That's right. When they start
あれ寝返りするとさ、おむつ変えんのもっと大変じゃない?
are negaeri suru to sa, omutsu kaen no motto taihen ja nai?
rolling over, doesn't changing their diapers become even more difficult? I
多分だけど、今まだ新生児つって、あ、生まれたてほやほやだからさ。
tabun da kedo, ima mada shinseijitsutte, a, umaretate hoyahoya da kara sa.
think it's because they're still newborns, meaning they've just been born.
うん。 ちょっとこうやって足を上げたりすんのも気い使ったりするでしょ?
un. chotto kou yatte ashi o age tari sun no mo kii tsukattari suru desho?
Yeah. Even something as simple as lifting your leg like this requires some care, right?
まあ、範囲内では。 そう。あんまり強くね。
maa, han'inai de wa. sou. anmari tsuyoku ne.
Well, within reasonable limits. yes. Not too strong.
うん。 動かすとすぐ折れちゃったり怖いから。
un. ugokasu to sugu orechattari kowai kara.
Yeah. I'm afraid it might break easily if I move it. And as
で、それが多分大きくなってくるともうちょっと乱暴でもいい。
de, sore ga tabun ookiku natte kuru to mou chotto ranbou de mo ii.
it gets bigger, it's probably okay to be a little rougher. It will get
良くなるんだよね。
yoku naru n da yo ne.
better, right? Their
首とか座ってくるし。 僕はね、もう思いっきり両方足持ってこうやってもう「ぐっ」て
kubi to ka suwatte kuru shi. boku wa ne, mou omoikkiri ryouhou ashi motte kou yatte mou " gu " te
necks start to become stronger. I just grab both of their legs with all my might and hold them like this and say "Gulp" Ah
ああ、もう寝返りさせない? させない。させない[笑い]
aa, mou negaerisasenai? sasenai. sasenai [ warai ]
, so you're not going to let them roll over? I won't let them . I won't let you do that [laughs],
とか両足使ってこう手やってこう
to ka ryouashi tsukatte kou te yattekou
or use both your feet and your hands like this.
ああ、なるほど。 あ、手が邪魔だからね。
aa, naruhodo. a, te ga jama da kara ne.
Ah, I see. Oh, your hands are in the way.
そうそうそう。 ああ、なるほどね。
sou sou sou. aa, naruhodo ne.
Yes, yes, that's right. Ah , I see. Maybe they're a
多分もうちょっと、ま、言い方はあれいいけどやっぱもうちょっと乱暴に扱えるというか、
tabun mou chotto, ma, iikata wa are ii kedo yappa mou chotto ranbou ni atsukaeru to iu ka,
little more, well, I don't mean this in a bad way, but they're a little more rough, you know, you know, there are some people like that
なんかほらさ、たまにいるじゃん。 なんかペット犬とか猫をさ、え、そんなに掴んで大丈夫?みたいな。
nan ka hora sa, tamani iru jan. nan ka pettoken to ka neko o sa, e, sonna ni tsukande daijoubu? mitai na.
sometimes. Is it really okay to hold pet dogs and cats like that? Something like that.
あ、ある。こうやって掴んだりね。 そう、そう。でもあれ大丈夫じゃん?
a, aru. kou yatte tsukan dari ne. sou, sou. de mo are daijoubu jan?
Oh, yes, there is. Like this, you grab it. oh yeah . But that's okay, right? It's
大丈夫ね。 うん。だから子供も多分そうだと思う。
daijoubu ne. un. da kara kodomo mo tabun sou da to omou.
okay. Yeah. So I think children probably feel the same way.
うーん。ま、足腰強くなって骨も強くなるからその分「ぐっ」てやっても平気なんだね。
uun. ma, ashikoshi tsuyoku natte hone mo tsuyoku naru kara sono bun " gu " te yatte mo heiki na n da ne.
Hmm. Well, your legs and core get stronger, and your bones get stronger too, so you can really push yourself without any problems.
そう。うん。ま、僕の感想で。 まあまあまあ。それなんかやってたら奥さんに言われそうだな。
sou. un. ma, boku no kansou de. maa maamaa. sore nanka yattetara okusan ni iware sou da na.
yes. Yeah. Well, these are just my thoughts. Okay, okay . If I did something like that, my wife would probably say something.
ま、いうてそんなに乱暴しないよ?
ma, iute sonna ni ranbou shinai yo?
Well, I'm not going to be that rough, you know?
ああ。あ、ただそのやっぱ新生児よりは
aa. a, tada sono yappa shinseiji yori wa
ah. Ah, but I guess you don't have to be as careful with them as you would with a newborn
そこまで気を使わないというか。
soko made ki o tsukawanai to iu ka.
. And I
あと言葉も分かるしね。
ato kotoba mo wakaru shi ne.
understand the language too.
そうね。 うん。
sou ne. un.
Yes. Yeah.
あとこの言葉知ってる?タミータイム。
ato kono kotoba shitteru? tamii taimu.
Also, do you know this word? Tummy time.
タミータイム。 タミータイム。
tamii taimu. tamii taimu.
Tummy time. Tummy time. And so it begins
さあ、始まりました。タミータイムの時間です。
saa, hajimarimashita. tamii taimu no jikan desu.
. It's time for tummy time.
本日のタミータイムはこちら。ドン
honjitsu no tamii taimu wa kochira. don
Today's Tummy Time is here. Do you
タミータイム知ってます? 知りません。
tamii taimu shittemasu? shirimasen.
know Don Tummy Time? No, I don't .
タミータイムって、うつ伏せにわざとさせて
tamii taimu tte, utsubuse ni wazato sasete
Tummy time is apparently a time when you have your baby lie face down to do a kind of neck
首のこの筋トレみたいなことをタミータイムって言うんだって。
kubi no kono kintore mitai na koto o tamii taimu tte iu n da tte.
muscle training.
あ、そうなんだ。 僕も初めて知ったんだけど
a, sou na n da. boku mo hajimete shitta n da kedo
Oh, really? I just found out about it too, but I don't think it existed
前なかったと思うな。じゃあそれでもうつ伏せにさせてさ、首が座ってない頃あってあげようとするじゃん?
mae nakatta to omou na. jaa sore de mo utsubuse ni sasete sa, kubi ga suwattenai koro atte ageyou to suru jan?
before. So, even then, you try to put them on their stomach, when their neck isn't strong enough yet, right?
はい。 あの感じやったことあるでしょ?
hai. ano kanji yatta koto aru desho?
yes. You've experienced that feeling before, right ?
うん、ある、ある。もちろんあれタミータイムです。
un, aru, aru. mochiron are tamii taimu desu.
Yeah, I have. Of course, that was tummy time.
ああ、知らず知らずのうちにタミータイムをやってた?そう。
aa, shirazu shirazu no uchi ni tamii taimu o yatteta? sou.
Oh, so I was doing tummy time without even realizing it? yes. I was doing it
やってた。で、そのタミータイムをやると首が座るのが早くなるんだって。
yatteta. de, sono tamii taimu o yaru to kubi ga suwaru no ga hayaku naru n da tte.
. Apparently, doing this tummy time helps babies develop head control faster.
うーん。 筋トレだから。
uun. kintore da kara.
Hmm. Because it's weight training.
まあ、やるに越したことないね。 うん。
maa, yaru ni koshita koto nai ne. un.
Well, it's better to do it than not. Yeah. This is
これむずいですよ。やるに越したことない。 やるに越したことないから。
kore mu zu i desu yo. yaru ni koshita koto nai. yaru ni koshita koto nai kara.
difficult. It's better to do it than not. It's better to do it than not.
うん。いや、絶対やった方がいいってこと。
un. iya, zettai yatta hou ga ii tte koto.
Yeah. No, I mean you absolutely should do it. It's better to do it than not
やるに越したことが、ま、やる、やるべきだよっていうなんかおすすめ感があるね。
yaru ni koshita koto ga, ma, yaru, yarubeki da yo tte iu nanka osusume kan ga aru ne.
, and it has a kind of recommendation feel to it, like "you should do it, you should do it."
うん。そう。 だって首座った方が楽じゃん。お父さんも。
un. sou. da tte kubi suwatta hou ga raku jan. ochichisan mo.
Yeah. yes. Because it's easier once the baby can hold their head up. Dad too. I want you to
早く座ってほしい。 ね。
hayaku suwatte hoshii. ne.
sit down quickly. hey. Whether we're going out for a
ご飯行くにしてもどっか出かけるにしてもやっぱ首座ってないと不安だしさ。
gohan iku ni shite mo dokka dekakeru ni shite mo yappa shuza tte nai to fuan da shi sa.
meal or just going somewhere else, I feel uneasy if the baby's neck isn't strong enough to support their head.
うん。 ね。知り合いにもどうぞってやりづらいしさ。
un. ne. shiriai ni mo douzo tte yarizurai shi sa.
Yeah. hey. It's awkward to offer it to acquaintances, too.
そう。こうどうぞ時がね。 うん。
sou. kou douzo toki ga ne. un.
yes. Here you go, it's time. Yeah. Because I need to
首を支えないといけないから。 そうなのよ。
kubi o sasaenai to ikenai kara. sou na no yo.
support the neck. That's right . It's
ちょっと大変なのよ。渡す方も受け取る方も。 うん。俺も怖いもん。
chotto taihen na no yo. watasu hou mo uketoru kata mo. un. ore mo kowai mon.
a bit difficult. Both the giver and the receiver. Yeah. I'm scared too.
うん。 宮崎さんの子供を抱っこする時は
un. miyazakisan no kodomo o dakko suru toki wa
Yeah. When I hold Miyazaki's child,
うん。やっぱちょっと怖い。 この前ね、抱っこしてもらったよね。うん。
un. yappa chotto kowai. kono mae ne, dakko shite moratta yo ne. un.
yes. It's still a little scary. Remember when you held me the other day? Yeah.
うん。 まだ怖い?
un. mada kowai?
Yeah. Still scared?
あ、でも1番最初よりは怖くない。 あ、そう。
a, de mo 1 ban saisho yori wa kowaku nai. a, sou.
Oh, but it's not as scary as the very first time. Oh, really?
うん。1番最初は本当さ、もうこんなんだからね。
un. 1 ban saisho wa hontou sa, mou konna n da kara ne.
Yeah. It's true at the very beginning, it's like this. It's
ほぼタコじゃん。タコ。 タコタコ。
hobo tako jan. tako. tako tako.
practically an octopus. Octopus. Octopus, octopus. It's pretty
ちょっと滑ったらあれは怖いよ。
chotto subettara are wa kowai yo.
scary if you slip even a little. [Laughs] That's
あれ怖いよね。ちょっと動かしたらもうゴローンっていっちゃうから。
are kowai yo ne. chotto ugokashitara mou goroon tte itchau kara.
scary, isn't it? If you move it even a little, it'll just tip over.
そう、そう、そう。でも今ちょっと半分ぐらいは
sou, sou, sou. de mo ima chotto hanbun gurai wa
Yes, yes, yes. But I think I still have about half the
首の力があるんじゃない? うん。
kubi no chikara ga aru n ja nai? un.
strength in my neck right now, don't you? Yeah.
もう最近はね、そのタミータイムをしてもずっと上げてるし。
mou saikin wa ne, sono tamii taimu o shite mo zutto ageteru shi.
Lately, even after tummy time, the weight keeps rising.
ああ。 うん。
aa. un.
ah. Yeah.
タミータイムやっぱいいんだね。 そう。このね、僕の胸の上に乗っけて
tamii taimu yappa ii n da ne. sou. kono ne, boku no mune no ue ni nokkete
Tummy time is really good, isn't it? yes. So, put it on my chest, yeah
うん。 こうダミータイムさして
un. kou damii taimu sashite
. Let's add a dummy time like this
ああ、それやるよね。 うん。
aa, sore yaru yo ne. un.
. Oh, you do that, right? Yeah. I bet
絶対パパここれやるよね。 ここやるよね。で、ここ顔と顔でええてかやって笑わせる。
zettai pa pa ko kore yaru yo ne. koko yaru yo ne. de, koko kao to kao de ee te ka yatte warawaseru.
Dad will do this. We'll do it here, right? Then, they make a face-to-face gesture and say "that's good" to make each other laugh. Give me a
チューしてね。 チューはしない。
chuu shite ne. chuu wa shinai.
kiss. I wo n't kiss you.
チュしない?うん。 そう。
chu shinai? un. sou.
Want to kiss? Yeah. yes.
うん。チューはしない。 チューしないの?
un. chuu wa shinai. chuu shinai no?
Yeah. I won't kiss you. Are n't you going to kiss me? Well
あの、ほっぺにはチューはするよ。あ、うん。口はしない。
ano, hoppe ni wa chuu wa suru yo. a, un. kuchi wa shinai.
, I'll give you a kiss on the cheek. Ah, yes. I won't say anything. I probably won't say anything
口はしないかな。ていうか、あの、菌が映るからやめてって言われてる。
kuchi wa shinai ka na. te iu ka, ano, kin ga utsuru kara yamete tte iwareteru.
. Actually, I've been told to stop because it could transmit germs. picture
え? おっぱいあげてんのに?
e? oppai ageten no ni?
? But I'm breastfeeding?
うちの奥さん歯に詳しいのよ。 ああ、なるほどね。
uchi no okusan ha ni kuwashii no yo. aa, naruhodo ne.
My wife knows a lot about teeth. Ah , I see.
そうだからうるさいのそこはやだね。
sou da kara urusai no soko wa ya da ne.
That's why it's so noisy there, I don't like it .
俺次やったらチューしよう。 いや、でもいない時したことあるけど。
ore tsugiyattara chuu shiyou. iya, de mo inai toki shita koto aru kedo.
Next time, let's kiss. No , but I have done it when she wasn't around.
うん。 で、3ヶ月になったんで
un. de, 3 kagetsu ni natta n de
Yeah. So , it's been three months now
はい。 いよいよ外食い行けるんじゃないかと。
hai. iyoiyo soto kui ikeru n ja nai ka to.
. I think we might finally be able to go out to eat.
ああ、そうですね。 僕と奥さんと子供で
aa, sou desu ne. boku to okusan to kodomo de
Ah, yes. My wife, our child, and I ca
やっぱ子供が生まれ立ての時ってなかなか外食に行けないからね。外食行きたいじゃん。
yappa kodomo ga umaretate no toki tte nakanaka gaishoku ni ikenai kara ne. gaishoku ikitai jan.
n't really go out to eat when the baby is very young. I want to go out to eat.
うん。 外食行きたいのに行けない。
un. gaishoku ikitai no ni ikenai.
Yeah. I want to go out to eat, but I can't.
うん。 ただ
un. tada
Yeah. However, since
3ヶ月経ったしそろそろ挑戦するということで焼肉屋に行ってきました。
3 kagetsu tatta shi sorosoro chousen suru to iu koto de yakinikuya ni itte kimashita.
three months had passed, I decided it was time to give it a try and went to a yakiniku (Japanese BBQ) restaurant.
お、焼肉屋に行ってきたのね。 そう。ま、安めの焼肉屋さん。
o, yakinikuya ni itte kita no ne. sou. ma, yasume no yakinikuyasan.
Oh, so you went to a yakiniku (Japanese BBQ) restaurant. yes. Well, it's a reasonably priced yakiniku (Japanese BBQ) restaurant.
うん。 お座敷に座って
un. ozashiki ni suwatte
Yeah. Sit down in the tatami room. Yes. I went there
うん。 行ってきました。すごい騒い出たの学生たちが。
un. itte kimashita. sugoi sawai deta no gakuseitachi ga.
. The students started making a huge fuss.
ああ、居酒屋に行ったらうるさい学生がいたんだ?
aa, izakaya ni ittara urusai gakusei ga ita n da?
Oh, so you went to an izakaya (Japanese pub) and there were some noisy students there?
うん。居酒屋じゃないけどね。 うん。あ、居酒屋じゃない。あ、焼肉屋がね。はい。はい。そう。学生がバーってグループで
un. izakaya ja nai kedo ne. un. a, izakaya ja nai. a, yakinikuya ga ne. hai. hai. sou. gakusei ga baatte guruupu de
Yeah. It's not an izakaya (Japanese pub), though. Yeah. Oh, it's not an izakaya (Japanese pub). Oh, a yakiniku (Japanese barbecue) restaurant. yes. yes. yes. There was a group of students who were incredibly
すんごいうるさかったの。 これが逆に助かってさ。
sungoi urusakatta no. kore ga gyaku ni tasukatte sa.
noisy. This actually worked out to my advantage. oh. vice versa
おお。 逆に?
oo. gyaku ni?
?
なぜか。泣いても迷惑じゃない。
naze ka. naite mo meiwaku ja nai.
Why? Crying won't cause any trouble. Because I can't hear you
聞こえないから。
kikoenai kara.
.
はい。はい。はい。 うん。
hai. hai. hai. un.
yes. yes. yes. Yeah.
あ、これいいや!と思って逆に助かった。
a, kore ii ya! to omotte gyaku ni tasukatta.
Oh, this is good! I was actually relieved, thinking that it might have been a good thing.
あ、結構泣いたの? ちょいちょい泣いたのよ。
a, kekkou naita no? choichoi naita no yo.
Oh, did you cry a lot? I cried quite a bit.
宮崎さんの子供声ちっちゃいよね。 そう?
miyazakisan no kodomo koe chitchai yo ne. sou?
Miyazaki's child voice is really quiet, isn't it? yes?
うん。うるさくない。 あ、そう。あんま比較したことないから。あ、ま、そっか。そっか。
un. urusaku nai. a, sou. anma hikaku shita koto nai kara. a, ma, sokka. sokka.
Yeah. It's not noisy. Oh, really? I haven't really compared them much. Oh, well, I see. I see. I don't know
わかんないけど。 ただこう「わー」って泣いても全然気にないで
wakannai kedo. tada kou " waa " tte naite mo zenzen ki ni naide
. Even though I was crying and saying "Wah!", they didn't seem to mind at all and I was able to
お肉食べられました。
oniku taberaremashita.
eat my meat.
ああ、いいじゃないですか。 逆にね、宮崎さんはこの焼肉屋とか行って、
aa, ii ja nai desu ka. gyaku ni ne, miyazakisan wa kono yakinikuya to ka itte,
Oh, that's great. On the other hand, Miyazaki-san, when you go to a yakiniku restaurant, a yakiniku
焼肉屋、焼肉屋とかさ、ご飯屋さんに行って、周りで赤ちゃんが泣いたらどうですか?
yakinikuya, yakinikuya to ka sa, gohan'yasan ni itte, mawari de akachan ga naitara dou desu ka?
restaurant, or any restaurant, and a baby cries nearby, what do you think? You
あ、うるせえなって思う。 ああ、思う人?
a, urusee na tte omou. aa, omou hito?
think, "Oh, that's annoying." Ah, someone who thinks so?
うん。俺も思う。 めっちゃ思う。
un. ore mo omou. metcha omou.
Yeah. I think so too. I really think so .
うるさ!って。 うん。なんかさ、しょうがないなと思いつつ
uru sa! tte. un. nan ka sa, shou ga nai na to omoi tsutsu
Shut up! That's what I thought. Yeah. You know, even though you think "it can't be helped," you still think "it's annoying
うるせえなと思うよね。
urusee na to omou yo ne.
." think
思う。ま、赤ちゃんは泣くものだしはい。
omou. ma, akachan wa naku mono da shi hai.
. Well, babies cry, so yes . I guess that ca
そこはしょうがないけど、連れてくんなよって思う。
soko wa shou ga nai kedo, tsurete kun na yo tte omou.
n't be helped, but I wish they wouldn't bring them along .
あ、思うんだ? あ、嘘!
a, omou n da? a, uso!
Oh, you think so? Oh, no way!
え、でもさ、思うよ。
e, de mo sa, omou yo.
But, you know, I think... You
今その気持ちは分かるでしょ? 逆だからね、今。
ima sono kimochi wa wakaru desho? gyaku da kara ne, ima.
understand how I feel now, right? It's the other way around right now.
そう。やっぱごめんなさいって思いながら抱っこしてる。
sou. yappa gomen nasai tte omoi nagara dakko shiteru.
yes. I'm holding him while thinking, "I'm so sorry." I
ご飯食べに行きたいじゃん。 うん。
gohan tabe ni ikitai jan. un.
want to go out to eat. Yeah. The
子供うるさいけど、なんかしょうが、あ、ま、しょうがねえなって気持ちにはなってきた最近。
kodomo urusai kedo, nan ka shouga, a, ma, shou ga nee na tte kimochi ni wa natte kita saikin.
kids are noisy, but lately I've started to feel like, well, there's nothing I can do about it.
いや、思わないで連れてくんなよって。思う。う。
iya, omowanaide tsurete kun na yo tte. omou. u.
No, don't bring me there if you don't think that way . think. cormorant.
あ、思うんだ。 思う。
a, omou n da. omou.
Ah, I think so. think . Oh really?
へえ。お、いやそこね、僕と宮崎さんはちょっと違う。
hee. o, iya soko ne, boku to miyazakisan wa chotto chigau.
Oh, no, that's where Miyazaki and I are a little different.
あ、そう。 僕はうるせえなと思うけど、ま、しゃあねえよな。
a, sou. boku wa urusee na to omou kedo, ma, shaanee yo na.
Oh, really? I think it's annoying, but oh well, what can you do?
ああ。 うん。ま、別にそこまでうるさくないし、子供のあかちゃんの鳴き声なんて。
aa. un. ma, betsu ni soko made urusaku nai shi, kodomo no akachan no nakigoe nante.
ah. Yeah. Well, it's not that noisy, it's just a baby crying.
ああ。でも子供の年齢にもよるかな。
aa. de mo kodomo no nenrei ni mo yoru ka na.
ah. But it probably depends on the child's age.
ああ、分かる。 あと親の躾。
aa, wakaru. ato oya no shitsuke.
Ah, I understand. Also, parental upbringing.
うん。 もう騒いで泣きはめいてんのに親が止めないとか、
un. mou sawaide naki wa meiten no ni oya ga tomenai to ka,
Yeah. When a child is making a fuss and crying and their parents don't stop them, or when their
親が注意しない子供ああいうのは来んなって思うマジで。
oya ga chuui shinai kodomo aa iu no wa kun na tte omou maji de.
parents don't pay attention to them, I seriously think that kids like that shouldn't come. You know, those kids who are just about to start
あの小学生に入る前ぐらいの
ano shougakusei ni hairu mae gurai no
elementary school and
とかね走り回ってさうん
to ka ne hashirimawatte sa un
run around, making a lot of noise
わあってうるさい子供。
waa tte urusai kodomo.
.
でその子供を放置してお母さん同士でこうご飯してる人
de sono kodomo o houchi shite ohahasandoushi de kou gohanshiteru hito
And those mothers who leave their children unattended while they go out to eat together—I seriously
あれはマジで老害だと思う。それはそう。
are wa maji de rougai da to omou. sore wa sou.
think that's just old-fashioned and annoying. That's true.
俺言うもん、それ子供に。 ああ、子供に言うの?
ore yuu mon, sore kodomo ni. aa, kodomo ni iu no?
I would tell that to a child. Oh, you're going to tell the kids?
直接言う。 親じゃなくて?
chokusetsu yuu. oya ja nakute?
Tell them directly. Not your parents? I wo
親には言わない。怖いもん。
oya ni wa iwanai. kowai mon.
n't tell my parents. It's scary. [Laughs] If I
親に言ったら喧嘩なりそうじゃん。 子供になんて言うの?
oya ni ittara kenka nari sou jan. kodomo ni nante iu no?
told my parents, we'd probably get into a fight. What do you say to the child? Get
子供に顔近づけてうん。
kodomo ni kao chikazukete un.
close to the child's face and say, "Yes." I
小さい声で「静かにしてよ」って言う。
chiisai koe de " shizuka ni shite yo " tte yuu.
whispered, "Please be quiet."
静かにしろよじゃなくて。そう。
shizuka ni shiro yo ja nakute. sou.
[Laughs] Not "Be quiet." yes. Be
静かにしてよ。 静かにしてよ。目見て。
shizuka ni shite yo. shizuka ni shite yo. me mite.
quiet. Be quiet. Look me in the eyes. Will that make it
それで静かになる? なるよ。
sore de shizuka ni naru? naru yo.
quieter? Yes, it will.
あ、なるんだ? うん。
a, naru n da? un.
Oh, so it does? Yeah. It's kind of
やっぱ髭の生えたおじさんに言われるってだけで怖いじゃん?
yappa hige no haeta ojisan ni iwareru tte dake de kowai jan?
scary when a bearded old man says it, right?
ああ、ま、そっか。おじさんに怒られたって感じだもんね。
aa, ma, sokka. ojisan ni okorareta tte kanji da mon ne.
Oh, well, I see. It feels like I got yelled at by my uncle.
そう、そう、そう、そう。 確かにね。
sou, sou, sou, sou. tashika ni ne.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's true. Those
そういう子供確かにうるせえ。 そう。だから電車とかで、
sou iu kodomo tashika ni urusee. sou. da kara densha to ka de,
kinds of kids are definitely noisy. yes. So, on the train or something, there are
もう1歳の赤ちゃんを抱いてるお母さんはい。もうわーって泣いちゃいました。ああ、すいません。すいませんって言ってる人はいいよ。
mou 1 sai no akachan o idaiteru ohahasan hai. mou waa tte naichaimashita. aa, suimasen. suimasen tte itteru hito wa ii yo.
mothers holding their one-year-old babies . Yes. I just burst out crying. Oh, I'm sorry. It's fine if they say "I'm sorry."
あ、それは何? それは許す。うるせえって思わない?
a, sore wa nan? sore wa yurusu. urusee tte omowanai?
Oh, what's that? I'll allow that. Don't you think it's annoying? It's
うるさいけどもしょうがないじゃん。 あらあ、なるほど。
urusai kedo mo shou ga nai jan. araa, naruhodo.
noisy, but what can you do? Oh, I see. There's nothing I can do
どうしようもできない。おっぱいもあげれないし、
dou shiyou mo dekinai. oppai mo agerenai shi,
. I can't breastfeed, and I ca
電車だから外にも出れないし、状況が状況だからそれは許す。
densha da kara soto ni mo derenai shi, joukyou ga joukyou da kara sore wa yurusu.
n't go outside because I'm on the train, so I'll accept it given the circumstances. You probably
歩いて行けよと思ってんでしょ?
aruite ikeyo to omotte n desho?
think I should just walk there, right?
それはひどいじゃん。なんで電車乗んだよ。歩けや。
sore wa hidoi jan. nan de denshajou n da yo. aruke ya.
That's terrible. Why did you take the train? Walk. If you're going to
歩くなら車で行けよって。 うん。て思ってる。本当
aruku nara kuruma de ikeyotte. un. te omotteru. hontou
walk, you might as well go by car. Yeah. That's what I think. I've actually
思ったこともあるよ。 ある。[笑い]
omotta koto mo aru yo. aru 。[ warai ]
thought that before. be. [Laughs]
うん。 けど今はそこは許せる。うん。
un. kedo ima wa soko wa yuruseru. un.
Yeah. But I can forgive that now. Yeah.
うん。 確かに飲食店は確かにちょっと意見が分かれるね。
un. tashika ni inshokuten wa tashika ni chotto iken ga wakareru ne.
Yeah. Restaurants are definitely a point where opinions differ.
うん。 うん。子供いない人はやっぱそう思うかもしんない。
un. un. kodomo inai hito wa yappa sou omou ka mo shinnai.
Yeah. Yeah. People without children might think that way.
そう。ない。ない時は特に思ってたから。 だよね。
sou. nai. nai toki wa tokuni omotteta kara. da yo ne.
yes. do not have. I especially thought that when I didn't have it. Right? I think I might have become
今はちょっと心が大きくなったかもしれない。 ああ。ストレスもたまるし。
ima wa chotto kokoro ga ookiku natta ka mo shirenai. aa. sutoresu mo tamaru shi.
a little more open-minded now. ah. It also causes stress. I get
イライラもするからやっぱ外食には行きたいよね。
iraira mo suru kara yappa gaishoku ni wa ikitai yo ne.
irritated, so I definitely want to go out to eat. I want to
行きたいよ。もう本当毎週行きたい。
ikitai yo. mou hontou maishuu ikitai.
go. I really want to go every week.
無理だよ、それは。毎週行きたい。
muri da yo, sore wa. maishuu ikitai.
That's impossible. I want to go every week.
うん。 だから先週焼肉屋行ったのね。
un. da kara senshuuyaki nikuya itta no ne.
Yeah. So that's why we went to a yakiniku restaurant last week.
はい。 今週も行きたいからちょっと作戦を練ってて。
hai. konshuu mo ikitai kara chotto sakusen o nettete.
yes. I want to go again this week, so I'm planning my strategy. There was a
ピザのチラシが入ってたのね。うちの玄関のポストに。
piza no chirashi ga haitteta no ne. uchi no genkan no posuto ni.
pizza flyer in the box. It was in the mailbox by our front door.
あ、ピザのチラシ入ってたよ。つって。ああ、なんかピザとかいいね。なんかパスタとかね。週末行く?ってこうフッてこう誘う。
a, piza no chirashi haitteta yo. tsutte. aa, nan ka piza to ka ii ne. nan ka pasuta to ka ne. shuumatsu iku? tte kou futte kou sasou.
Oh, there was a pizza flyer in the mail. That's what I said. Oh, pizza sounds good. Something like pasta. Are you going this weekend? And then you invite them like this.
うん。てかさ。 はい。
un. te ka sa. hai.
Yeah. Anyway... yes. This is a
すごくプライベートの話だけどはい。
sugoku puraibeeto no hanashi da kedo hai.
very personal matter, but yes. You
ちょっと飯行くってうちにぴょんと預ければいいのに。うちの家に子供
chotto meshi iku tte uchi ni pyon to azukereba ii no ni. uchi no ie ni kodomo
could just leave her with me when you go out for a meal. Could you
1時間ぐらいさ、ちょっと預かってって。
1 jikan gurai sa, chotto azukattette.
look after my child for about an hour?
ま、俺はそうしたい。 ああ。奥さんが気を使う?
ma, ore wa sou shitai. aa. okusan ga ki o tsukau?
Well, that's what I'd like to do. ah. Does your wife feel obligated to be considerate? I'm being
めっちゃ気使う。 連絡なしでもいいよ。
metcha ki tsukau. renraku nashi de mo ii yo.
extremely considerate. You don't need to contact me.
ああ、じゃあ次に僕の奥さんに会った時に
aa, jaa tsugi ni boku no okusan ni atta toki ni
Oh, well, could you tell my wife directly the next time you see her
直接言ってくんない?うん。[笑い]もう俺から言ってもね、聞かないのよ。
chokusetsu itte kunnai? un. [ warai ] mou ore kara itte mo ne, kikanai no yo.
? Okay. [Laughs] No matter what I say, they won't listen. Oh
あ、そうですか。 うん。いや、気使うからで終わっちゃうから。
a, sou desu ka. un. iya, ki tsukau kara de owatchau kara.
, really? Yeah. No, it just ends with "I'm being considerate."
ああ、別に俺も会いたいし。 うん。
aa, betsu ni ore mo aitai shi. un.
Oh, I'd like to see you too. Yeah.
だってご飯行くっすても長くても3時間でしょ。
da tte gohan ikussute mo nagakute mo 3 jikan desho.
Because even if we go out for a meal, it'll only be 3 hours at most, right?
いや、そんな行かないよ。 ちょ、ま、長くてもね。
iya, sonna ikanai yo. cho, ma, nagakute mo ne.
No, I don't go that often. Well, even if it's long. It's
長すぎる。 うん。
naga sugiru. un.
too long. Yeah. It should be
1時間あれば終わるよね。 まあまあ、そう、そう、そう。だからそうすればいいのに。
1 jikan areba owaru yo ne. maamaa, sou, sou, sou. da kara sou sureba ii no ni.
finished in an hour, right? Well, yes, yes, yes. So that's what you should do.
じゃあ次からそうしようかな。 うん。
jaa tsugi kara sou shiyou ka na. un.
Okay, I'll do that next time. Yeah. Because I can go home
ちょっとだけ見ててって思いつつ帰れるから。 うん。ただミルクがね、
chotto dake mitete tte omoi tsutsu kaereru kara. un. tada miruku ga ne,
thinking, "Just watch for a little while." Yeah. But the thing is, right now I'm
今ほら母乳だからそこも気にしてるんだよね。
ima hora bonyuu da kara soko mo ki ni shiteru n da yo ne.
breastfeeding, so that's something I'm worried about. I'll give it to you
(俺が)あげるあげる。
( ore ga) ageru ageru.
.
ばい菌がすごい入っちゃうから。 あの毛がついてるかもしんない。ここに
baikin ga sugoi haitchau kara. ano ke ga tsuiteru ka mo shinnai. koko ni
Because a lot of germs will get in. There might be some hair on it. When I
帰ってきたらあれなんどうしたの?この毛つって。
kaette kitara are nan dou shita no? kono ketsutte.
came back here, I noticed something strange. What happened to this hair?
そうそうそうそう。それは怒られちゃうからね。
sousou sousou. sore wa okorarechau kara ne.
Yes, yes, yes, that's right. You'll get in trouble for doing that. There
ミルク卒業の時期って来るでしょ。
miruku sotsugyou no jiki tte kuru desho.
comes a time when babies stop drinking milk, right?
うん。え、もう完全、完全おっぱい?
un. e, mou kanzen, kanzen oppai?
Yeah. Wait, are they already completely, completely boobs? It's
完全おっぱいだから、ま、9.5割おっぱい。
kanzen oppai da kara, ma, 9. 5 wari oppai.
all breasts, so, well, 95% breasts.
あ、じゃあそういう出かける時は
a, jaa sou iu dekakeru toki wa
Oh, well, when you go out like that, if you just
ミルク、ミルクちにポンって
miruku, miruku chi ni pon tte
put out some formula, just like that,
1個だけ置いとけばさ、それもね、ちょっと嫌がるのよ。やっぱなるべくあげたくないんだって。
1 ko dake oitokeba sa, sore mo ne, chotto iyagaru no yo. yappa narubeku agetaku nai n da tte.
leave one milk carton in the milk carton, she doesn't really like that either . Apparently, they really don't want to give it away if they can help it.
あ、めんどくせえ。 そうだからその辺がちょっと俺も突っ込みにくい。
a, mendokusee. sou da kara sono hen ga chotto ore mo tsukkominikui.
Ugh, what a pain. That's why it's a bit difficult for me to comment on that.
ああ。ま、こうすればいいじゃんって言えない。
aa. ma, kou sureba ii jan tte ienai.
ah. Well, I ca n't exactly say, "This is how you should do it."
うん。 だって俺がやってるわけじゃないから。
un. da tte ore ga yatteru wake ja nai kara.
Yeah. Because I'm not the one doing it. As for
おっぱいはそこはね、何も言えないんですよ。
oppai wa soko wa ne, nan mo ienai n desu yo.
breasts, well, there's nothing I can say about that. You're doing great
頑張ってんだね。 だから、ま、ミルクが終わったタイミングで預けるのが始まるかも。
ganbatte n da ne. da kara, ma, miruku ga owatta taimingu de azukeru no ga hajimaru ka mo.
. So, I guess I might start leaving her with someone once she's finished drinking milk.
うん。うん。うん。 そうすれば離乳食とかが始まったらさ、鳥山さんもあげてくれるでしょ?こうやってあーんつって。
un. un. un. sou sureba rinyuu shoku to ka ga hajimattara sa, toriyamasan mo agete kureru desho? kou yatte aa n tsutte.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That way, when the baby starts eating solid foods, Toriyama-san will feed the baby, right? Like this, saying "Ahhh."
うん。 それできるもんね。
un. sore dekiru mon ne.
Yeah. You can do that, right? Well, yeah
まあね。宮崎さんは子供の時さ、おっぱい?いや、覚えてないよ。
maa ne. miyazakisan wa kodomo no toki sa, oppai? iya, oboetenai yo.
. When Miyazaki was a child, did he have a breast? No, I don't remember. You probably do
覚えてないでしょ。覚えてんの? 覚えてない。覚えてないし。うん。
oboetenai desho. oboeten no? oboetenai. oboetenai shi. un.
n't remember. Do you remember? I do n't remember. I don't remember. Yeah. You know how people start
20歳前からさ、お酒飲むじゃん?
20 sai mae kara sa, osake nomu jan?
drinking alcohol before they turn 20?
うん。 なんかあんま関係ない気がするんだよね。
un. nan ka anma kankei nai ki ga suru n da yo ne.
Yeah. I feel like it's not really related. I
分かるよ。 母乳とか。
wakaru yo. bonyuu to ka.
understand. Breast milk, for example. I
分かるよ。非常に分かるよ。ていうか、なんならそっちの意見で僕も。
wakaru yo. hijou ni wakaru yo. te iu ka, nan nara sotchi no iken de boku mo.
understand. I totally understand. Actually, I agree with your opinion.
うん。うん。 だから別にミルク粉でいいじゃんって言いたいよ。
un. un. da kara betsu ni miruku kona de ii jan tte iitai yo.
Yeah. Yeah. So I want to say, why not just use powdered milk?
うん。 けど一応そこは尊重しようかなと。
un. kedo ichiou soko wa sonchou shiyou ka na to.
Yeah. But I think I'll respect that point for now.
ああ、大変なんだな。じゃあそうだよ。色々あるんです。
aa, taihen na n da na. jaa sou da yo. iroiro aru n desu.
Oh, that sounds tough. Okay then. There are many reasons. What
皆さんはね、どういう家庭環境でしょうかね。 今日はこういう話をするはずじゃなかったので。
minasan wa ne, dou iu katei kankyou deshou ka ne. kyou wa kou iu hanashi o suru hazu ja nakatta no de.
kind of family backgrounds do you all come from? I wasn't supposed to be talking about this today.
あ、そうなの? うん。もうちょっとあのルーティーンをちょっとね、こう、
a, sou na no? un. mou chotto ano ruutiin o chotto ne, kou,
Oh, really? Yeah. I was
並べてルーティーンを話そうかなと思ったんだけど喋りすぎた?
narabete ruutiin o hanasou ka na to omotta n da kedo shaberi sugita?
thinking of listing and talking about that routine a bit more, but did I talk too much? We've gone off on
ちょっと脱線しまくったね。 喋りすぎた。
chotto dassen shi makutta ne. shaberi sugita.
quite a tangent, haven't we? I talked too much.
ま、これがスーパーイマージョンってことで
ma, kore ga suupaa imaajon tte koto de
Well, this is super immersion, so don't get
ルーティーンの動画だと思ったら大間違いだぜ。
ruutiin no douga da to omottara oomachigai da ze.
too confused if you think this is just a routine video. We're
おっぱいの話だぜ。
oppai no hanashi da ze.
talking about breasts. [Laughs] Because it's
だっておかしいもん。 何が?
da tte okashii mon. nan ga?
funny. What? We'll
俺らが赤ちゃんのルーティーンを喋るの。
orera ga akachan no ruutiin o shaberu no.
talk about the baby's routine.
真面目に。 これはま、数字のため。
majime ni. kore wa ma, suuji no tame.
Seriously. This is, well, just for the sake of numbers.
こうなっちゃうんだよ。 数字のためだから。
kou natchau n da yo. suuji no tame da kara.
This is what happens. Because it's for the numbers.
で、これ脱線、脱線方向になっちゃうんだよ。
de, kore dassen, dassen houkou ni natchau n da yo.
[Laughs] And this is going off on a tangent, heading in the direction of going off on a tangent. The
AIが言ってたの。この動画伸びますって。だから今日はこういう動画撮ってみました。
AI ga itteta no. kono douga nobimasu tte. da kara kyou wa kou iu douga totte mimashita.
AI said so. This video is going to be a hit. So today I tried making this video.
ああ、でもいいと思います。 なんか
aa, de mo ii to omoimasu. nan ka
Ah, but I think that's fine. Well, yeah
うん。 あの、子供っていいよなってね。でも僕の周り今子供なんですよ。子供がいっぱい生まれてる。
un. ano, kodomo tte ii yo na tte ne. de mo boku no mawari ima kodomo na n desu yo. kodomo ga ippai umareteru.
. You know, kids are great, aren't they? But everyone around me is a child right now. Lots of babies are being born.
はあ、そうなのつっても、ま、宮崎さんとあと僕の会社のいるんですけど会社に
haa, sou na notsutte mo, ma, miyazakisan to ato boku no kaisha no iru n desu kedo kaisha ni
Oh, really? Well , there's Miyazaki-san and another employee at my company, and that person
1人会社員がそいつも最近子供産んで
1 nin kaishain ga soitsu mo saikin kodomo unde
also recently had a baby
うん。ふんふん。 だから子供が周りにいっぱいいてなんか結構幸せというか。
un. fun fun. da kara kodomo ga mawari ni ippai ite nan ka kekkou shiawase to iu ka.
. Hmm hmm. So, having lots of children around me makes me feel pretty happy.
ああ。 うん。
aa. un.
ah. Yeah. I see.
なるほどね。確かに自分の子供はもう大きいからう
naruhodo ne. tashika ni jibun no kodomo wa mou ookii kara u
Well, my own children are grown up now, so yeah
ん。 小さい子供を見んのが新鮮なんだ。うん。
n. chiisai kodomo o min no ga shinsen na n da. un.
. It's refreshing to see small children. Yeah. It's
新鮮だし可愛いですね。 可愛かったよ、あなたの子も。
shinsen da shi kawaii desu ne. kawaikatta yo, anata no ko mo.
fresh and cute. Your child was cute too.
そう。だからその感覚が僕わかんなかったんすよ、今まで。
sou. da kara sono kankaku ga boku wakannakatta nsu yo, ima made.
yes. That's why I never understood that feeling until now.
うん。うん。うん。 あ、で、もう1人ね、親戚の子に今
un. un. un. a, de, mou 1 nin ne, shinseki no ko ni ima
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and there's one more person, a relative's child who's
1歳ぐらいの子がいるんだけどうん。うん。うん。
1 sai gurai no ko ga iru n da kedo un. un. un.
about one year old right now . Yeah. Yeah. And from that point on, she
だ、そこから可愛くなった一気に。 ああ。やっぱ身内に
da, soko kara kawaiku natta ikki ni. aa. yappa miuchi ni
suddenly became incredibly cute. ah. I guess I'd prefer to be with family
うん。 小さい子がいるってこの年じゃあんまりね。
un. chiisai ko ga iru tte kono toshi ja anmari ne.
. Having young children at this age is a bit much.
あ、そうそうそう。 体験できないから。そうだ。ようやく去年ぐらいにそれを実感して
a, sou sou sou. taiken dekinai kara. sou da. youyaku kyonen gurai ni sore o jikkan shite
Oh, that's right. Because you ca n't experience it. That's right. I finally realized that around last year
うん。 え、待って。こんな可愛いんだ。
un. e, matte. konna kawaii n da.
. Wait , what? She's so cute. Is it
自分の子とはまた違う?
jibun no ko to wa mata chigau?
different from having your own child? Oh really? I don't find my
へえ。 自分の子を可愛いとは思わないよ、俺。
hee. jibun no ko o kawaii to wa omowanai yo, ore.
own child cute.
え?可愛いでしょ? 愛してはいるけど。ああ。
e? kawaii desho? aishite wa iru kedo. aa.
Huh? Isn't she cute? I do love her, though. ah.
いやいや、ま、いるけど点で終わったから待ってたんだけど日本語ですよ。これは愛しているけど点
iyaiya, ma, iru kedo ten de owatta kara matteta n da kedo nihon go desu yo. kore wa aishite iru kedo ten
No, no, well, they are there, but it ended with a dot so I was waiting, but it's in Japanese. I love this, but
うん。 愛はありますよ。愛はあります。
un. ai wa arimasu yo. ai wa arimasu.
yeah. Love exists. Love exists.
うん。 けど可愛いって思う瞬間っていうのは本当にない。
un. kedo kawaii tte omou shunkan tte iu no wa hontou ni nai.
Yeah. But there really aren't any moments when I think she's cute. Is
今大きいからじゃないの? もっと小さい頃は可愛かったでしょ?
ima ookii kara ja nai no? motto chiisai koro wa kawaikatta desho?
n't it because you're big now? You were cuter when you were smaller, right?
あ、もうもちろんです。 今はでしょ。
a, mou mochiron desu. ima wa desho.
Oh, of course. Right now, isn't it?
そう。 今はもう小学生、中学生になったから
sou. ima wa mou shougakusei, chuugakusei ni natta kara
yes. They're in elementary school and middle school now, so yeah
うん。 ってことでしょ。
un. tte koto desho.
. That's what it means, right?
うん。 それは
un. sore wa
Yeah. Well, that's how it is
そうなんかあれですよ。 可愛いというよりか、あ、すげえって思う瞬間が増えてきた。逆に
sou nanka are desu yo. kawaii to iu yori ka, a, sugee tte omou shunkan ga fuete kita. gyaku ni
. Rather than thinking she's cute, I've been having more and more moments where I think, "Wow, that's amazing." On the contrary,
すげえとはこの成長。
sugee to wa kono seichou.
this growth is amazing.
ああ、成長に対して、
aa, seichou ni taishite,
Wow, regarding growth,
え、すごいね。 そんな言葉どこで覚えたのとか、
e, sugoi ne. sonna kotoba doko de oboeta no to ka,
wow, that's amazing. Where did you learn those words? Well
あの、言葉じゃない。 何?知識。
ano, kotoba ja nai. nan? chishiki.
, they're not words. What? Knowledge.
行動と知識。おおが出てくんだよね。
koudou to chishiki. oo ga deteku n da yo ne.
Action and knowledge. Oh, that's what comes out . Oh really? When you're in
へえ。 小6とか中1になると。
hee. shou 6 to ka naka 1 ni naru to.
6th grade or 1st year of middle school.
え、例えば、例えば世間のニュースとか
e, tatoeba, tatoeba seken no nyuusu to ka
Uh, for example, for example, news from around the world,
うん。 詳しかったりたまにね。
un. kuwashikattari tamani ne.
yeah. Sometimes they're knowledgeable about it .
ああ、じゃあどこでニュース見てんのみたいな。 そう、やっぱ僕がニュースとか見るんですけど、ニュースを見て子供に自慢気に言うんですよ、
aa, jaa doko de nyuusu miten no mitai na. sou, yappa boku ga nyuusu to ka miru n desu kedo, nyuusu o mite kodomo ni jiman ki ni iu n desu yo,
Oh, so where do you watch the news then? Yeah, I do watch the news, and I proudly tell my kids about it, like, "
ああ、こんなニュースあったぜみたいな。 そう。お前知らねえだろつって。
aa, konna nyuusu atta ze mitai na. sou. omae shiranee darotsutte.
Oh, look what they were talking about!" yes. "You wouldn't know, would you?" At that
そん時ね、え、知ってるよ。あれでしょ?で、で、あれがあれでこうでしょみたいな言ってくる。
son toki ne, e, shitteru yo. are desho? de, de, are ga are de kou desho mitai na itte kuru.
time, uh, I know. They'll say something like, "You know, that thing, and then this happens, right?"
ああ、かぶして? そう。
aa, kabu shite? sou.
Oh, put it on? yes.
うん。 お前、お前つって
un. omae, omaetsutte
Yeah. Stop calling me " you, you."
やるなって。 ああ、大したもんだと。で、そういうところが「お、すげえな。」
yaru na tte. aa, taishita mon da to. de, sou iu tokoro ga " o, sugee na. "
Wow, that's impressive. And that's where I think, "Wow, that's amazing."
ああ、じゃあ鳥山さんの知識を超えるのはもうそろそろかもしれないね。
aa, jaa toriyamasan no chishiki o koeru no wa mou sorosoro ka mo shirenai ne.
Ah, so maybe it won't be long before I surpass Toriyama's knowledge.
うん。 あとあと
un. atoato
Yeah. Also, I've started spending a lot
あとなんかね、友達と遊ぶことがとっても増える。
ato nanka ne, tomodachi to asobu koto ga totte mo fueru.
more time hanging out with friends.
ああ、でもそれはいいんじゃないの? うん。
aa, de mo sore wa ii n ja nai no? un.
Oh, but isn't that okay? Yeah. Making
友達が増えて活発的でいいことじゃん。嫌なの?
tomodachi ga fuete kappatsuteki de ii koto jan. iya na no?
more friends and being more active is a good thing, isn't it? You don't like it?
いや、それすごい嬉しいのとあとね、この年下の小学生と遊んだりもするのよ。
iya, sore sugoi ureshii no to ato ne, kono toshishita no shougakusei to ason dari mo suru no yo.
No, I'm really happy about it, and I also get to play with these younger elementary school kids.
ああ、いいじゃない。可愛いで。家に連れてきて
aa, ii ja nai. kawaii de. ie ni tsurete kite
Oh, that's good. So cute . Bring it home. Yes. Basically, I'll be the big
うん。 要は
un. you wa
Yeah. Basically,
お姉ちゃんをする。 ああ、いいね。
oanechan o suru. aa, ii ne.
sister. Oh, that's good.
これ難しい。 お姉ちゃん、お姉ちゃんがしたい。
kore muzukashii. oanechan, oanechan ga shitai.
This is difficult. Big sister, I want to be a big sister.
ま、お姉ちゃんのような世話、世話をしたいってことだよね。
ma, oanechan no you na sewa, sewa o shitai tte koto da yo ne.
Well, I guess you mean you want to take care of her like an older sister would.
でもそれってなかなかできるタイミングがないんだよね。うん。
de mo sore tte nakanaka dekiru taimingu ga nai n da yo ne. un.
But it's hard to find the right timing to do that. Yeah.
僕女の子、女の子でいつも喧嘩ばかりだからやっぱお姉ちゃんみたいなことをちゃんとするタイミングがあるっていうのはすごくいいこと。
boku onnanoko, onnanoko de itsu mo kenka bakari da kara yappa oanechan mitai na koto o chanto suru taimingu ga aru tte iu no wa sugoku ii koto.
I'm a girl, and we're always fighting, so it's really good to have a time when I can properly act like an older sister.
うん。確かにね。 そんな感じの場面がないもんね。
un. tashika ni ne. sonna kanji no bamen ga nai mon ne.
Yeah. That's true. There are n't any scenes like that, are there?
そう。普段はだからこの可愛いなあっていうよりお前すごいね。
sou. fudan wa da kara kono kawaii naa tte iu yori omae sugoi ne.
yes. Normally, instead of saying "You're so cute," I'd say "Wow, you're amazing." That's been happening more and more lately
っていうことが増えてきました。
tte iu koto ga fuete kimashita.
. I see.
なるほどね。 うん。
naruhodo ne. un.
Yeah.
ま、今僕の子供は可愛いだけなんでほぼ
ma, ima boku no kodomo wa kawaii dake na n de hobo
Well, right now my child is just cute, so he's pretty much
ああ、100可愛いね。 うん。だってすごいこと何もしてないから。
aa, 100 kawaii ne. un. da tte sugoi koto nan mo shitenai kara.
100% cute. Yeah. Because I haven't done anything amazing.
うん。 うん。みんな通る道だから。
un. un. minna tooru michi da kara.
Yeah. Yeah. It's a path everyone goes through.
はい。はい。はい。 だから100可愛いんだけど、これが
hai. hai. hai. da kara 100 kawaii n da kedo, kore ga
yes. yes. yes. So it's 100% cute, but does it
100から減ってってすごいが増えてくんだ?
100 kara hettette sugoi ga fueteku n da?
go down from 100% and then increase in a really amazing way? I don't think it's amazing yet
すごいはまだな気がする。 あ、だからこうどんどんだ年と共にそう
sugoi wa mada na ki ga suru. a, da kara kou dondon da toshi to tomo ni sou
. Ah, so that's why it
年と比例してるわけでしょ。 うん。
nen to hirei shiteru wake desho. un.
increases with age, right? It's proportional to age. Yeah.
うん。 可愛いあれでしょ?「うざい」がちょっと入ってくるから。うざいが
un. kawaii are desho? " uzai " ga chotto haitte kuru kara. uzai ga
Yeah. It's that cute one, right? But it has a bit of an annoying element to it. It's annoying
うざいが入ってくるから。
uzai ga haitte kuru kara.
[laughs] because the word "annoying" comes into play. gradually
だんだん。ムかつくとかイライラがどんどんこうやってくると思うよ。
dandan. mu ka tsuku to ka iraira ga dondon kou yatte kuru to omou yo.
. I think you'll start feeling more and more annoyed and irritated like this. About half and half
半分半分ぐらい。 その後にすげえが入ってくるんだ。
hanbun hanbun gurai. sono ato ni sugee ga haitte kuru n da.
. Then something amazing comes along.
そうそうそうそう。[笑い]
sousou sousou. [ warai ]
Yes, yes, yes, that's right. [Laughs] It
人によるけどね。それね、子育ては終わらないね。
hito ni yoru kedo ne. sore ne, kosodate wa owaranai ne.
depends on the person, though. Well, parenting never really ends, does it? It's not
終わらないっすよ。 長い人生になりそうだ。
owaranaissu yo. nagai jinsei ni nari sou da.
over yet. It looks like I'm going to have a long life. So, that's all for
ということで、はい、今日の話はこの辺で、
to iu koto de, hai, kyou no hanashi wa kono hen de,
today.
え、ま、皆さんの朝のルーティーン、赤ちゃんがいる人はこんな世話をしてますとか教えてください。
e, ma, minasan no asa no ruutiin, akachan ga iru hito wa konna sewa o shitemasu to ka oshiete kudasai.
Um, well, could you tell us about your morning routines, and for those of you with babies, how you take care of them?
うん。なんかもうちょっとね、お酒とか飲みながらもうちょっと話したかったけど
un. nan ka mou chotto ne, osake to ka nomi nagara mou chotto hanashitakatta kedo
Yeah. I kind of wanted to talk a little more, maybe over some drinks or something
うん。ていうか僕思ってたのはお酒を飲みながら動画を撮ってみたい。
un. te iu ka boku omotteta no wa osake o nomi nagara douga o totte mitai.
. Actually, what I was thinking was that I'd like to try filming a video while drinking alcohol.
ああ、いいですよ。1回もやったことないじゃん?
aa, ii desu yo. 1 kai mo yatta koto nai jan?
Oh, sure. You've never done it before, right?
うん。やりたいよね。 やりたい。ただここって撮影場所だから家まで遠いじゃん。
un. yaritai yo ne. yaritai. tada koko tte satsuei basho da kara ie made tooi jan.
Yeah. I want to do it. I want to do it . But this is a filming location, so it's far from home.
うん。 なかなか飲めないんだよね。ノンアルコールとかどう?形だけでもノンアルコール置いて今日は飲みながらやるぜつってバレないじゃん。多分
un. nakanaka nomenai n da yo ne. non'arukooru to ka dou? katachi dake de mo non'arukooru oite kyou wa nomi nagara yaru zetsutte barenai jan. tabun
Yeah. I do n't drink very often. How about non-alcoholic drinks? You could just put some non-alcoholic drinks there, even if it's just for show, and pretend you're going to drink while you work, and nobody would notice. I don't think they'll find out
バレないよ。バレないけど何のためにお酒を飲むかだよね。
barenai yo. barenai kedo nan no tame ni osake o nomu ka da yo ne.
. It's about why you drink alcohol even if you don't get caught. [Laughs]
じゃ、飲んだ方が流暢になったりするじゃない?
ja, non da hou ga ryuuchou ni nattari suru ja nai?
Well, you do become more fluent when you drink, right? That's what
お酒はでしょ? お酒が。
osake wa desho? osake ga.
alcohol does, isn't it? Alcohol.
お、お酒がね、ノンアルだったら意味ないじゃん。
o, osake ga ne, non aru dattara imi nai jan.
Well, if it's non-alcoholic, then it's pointless, isn't it?
ああ。いや、ま、絵的にさ。 ああ。でもやっぱお酒を飲むからにはなんかちょっと楽しく飲みたいじゃん。
aa. iya, ma, eteki ni sa. aa. de mo yappa osake o nomu kara ni wa nan ka chotto tanoshiku nomitai jan.
ah. Well, visually speaking. ah. But if you're going to drink alcohol, you want to have a little fun, right? Well, yeah
まあね。 だ、ここに泊まる勢いで。
maa ne. da, koko ni tomaru ikioi de.
. I'm almost ready to stay here.
ああ、そうね。 ここに寝泊まりする勢いでお酒を買わないとダメだね。
aa, sou ne. koko ni netomari suru ikioi de osake o kawanai to dame da ne.
Oh, right. I need to buy enough alcohol to make it seem like I'm going to be staying here overnight.
うん。あなたができればね。 できない。
un. anata ga dekireba ne. dekinai.
Yeah. If you can, that is. It's not possible. I can do it, though
俺はできるけど確かに。
ore wa dekiru kedo tashika ni.
.
うん。 ということで
un. to iu koto de
Yeah. So, yeah
うん。 え、皆さんの国の赤ちゃんの育て方や色々教えてください。
un. e, minasan no kuni no akachan no sodatekata ya iroiro oshiete kudasai.
. Hey, could you tell me about how you raise babies in your country and other related things?
今日あれでしょ?赤ちゃんがいるお父さんのルーティーン。
kyou are desho? akachan ga iru ochichisan no ruutiin.
Today is that routine for dads with babies, right?
そう。
sou.
yes.
ルーティンっぽいこと喋った?
ruutinppoi koto shabetta?
[Laughs] Did I just say something that sounds like a routine? But I was going to talk
でも喋ろうと思ったんだけど。 朝起きて、
de mo shaberou to omotta n da kedo. asa okite,
. I woke up in the morning, I
朝起きてそう。朝何時起きますか。から始まって
asa okite sou. asa nandoki okimasu ka. kara hajimatte
woke up in the morning, yes. What time do you wake up in the morning? It starts with this
で、お昼はこうして、夜はこうして、お昼の話してない。
de, ohiru wa kou shite, yoru wa kou shite, ohiru no hanashitenai.
, and then lunch is like this, and dinner is like this, but we have n't talked about lunch. We have
夜の話してない。 どうやって寝かしつけるとか
yoru no hanashitenai. dou yatte nekashitsukeru to ka
n't talked about what happened at night. I don't do anything to get them to sleep
してない。 これじゃあまた別の枠で録画します。
shitenai. kore jaa mata betsu no waku de rokuga shimasu.
. I'll record this in a different time slot.
はい。 お楽しみにしてください。
hai. otanoshimi ni shite kudasai.
yes. Please look forward to it .
この動画伸びません。 いや、伸びますよ。きっと
kono douga nobimasen. iya, nobimasu yo. kitto
This video isn't getting many views. No , it will grow. It probably won't
伸びません。 伸びますよ。はい。
nobimasen. nobimasu yo. hai.
grow. It will grow. yes. So
ということで、え、また次の動画でお会いしましょう。あざしたー
to iu koto de, e, mata tsugi no douga de oai shimashou. aza shitaa
, well , see you in the next video. Thanks!
Video and Japanese captions: Japanese super immersion on YouTube. English: the channel's own captions.
Words at N5 and above
- そうreally, soN5
- するto doN5
- 言うto sayN5
- ああah, oh; like that, that wayN5
- 無いto not beN5
- やるto doN5
- 思うto think,to feelN5
- もうalreadyN5
- 子供ChildN5
- 僕I (used by males)N5
- ことthing,matterN5
- それthatN5
- 間space,room,time,pauseN5
- なるto becomeN5
- ちょっとsomewhatN5
- はいyesN5
- あるto be,to have (used for inanimate objects)N5
- 何whatN5
- あれthatN5
- こうthis wayN5
- 今nowN5
- 行くto goN5
- 来るto comeN5
- 飲むto drinkN5
- これThisN5
- 時(1) time,hour,(2) occasion,momentN5
- このThis, thisN5
- やはりalso,as I thought,still,in spite of,absolutely,of courseN5
- そのThat, the, thatN5
- あのthat over there, um...N5
- そこthere, that placeN5
- 起きるto get upN5
- 覚えるto rememberN5
- 大人AdultN5
- 方person, way of doingN5
- 入るto enter, to go in; to containN5
- うちwithinN5
- ここHere, hereN5
- 出るto appear,to leaveN5
- どうhow,in what wayN5
- 分かるto be understoodN5
- 人personN5
- 知るto knowN5
- 酒alcohol,sakeN5
- 朝morningN5
- 話talk,storyN5
- 泣くto weepN5
- 子childN5




